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| I started [http://www.emacswiki.org/ Emacs Wiki], I run [http://www.communitywiki.org/ Community Wiki], I maintain [http://www.oddmuse.org/ Oddmuse], and I have a [http://www.emacswiki.org/alex/ blog]. |
| I started [Emacs Wiki|http://www.emacswiki.org/], I run [Community Wiki|http://www.communitywiki.org/], I maintain [Oddmuse|http://www.oddmuse.org/], and I have a [blog|http://www.emacswiki.org/alex/]. |
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| When I implemented the [Oddmuse] extension for Creole Markup, I added notes to all the talk pages where I felt the next revision of the recommendation should be more precise. |
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| My position statement on [Creole 0.6]: |
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| * I support both * and - as bullet list markup, but I require a space after the - and the there's no nesting (-- or ---) for -. |
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| My position statement on [Creole 0.5]: |
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| * {{{||=}}} -- supported |
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| * Markup within table cells -- supported |
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| * Images within links are supported (but not anything else) |
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| * Using a space before }}} -- supported, but this is not the kind of escape character I would have expected. Adding an escape character would be nice. |
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| My position statement on [Creole 0.4]: |
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| * I had no strong opinion on ChangeLinebreakMarkupProposal. Personally, I liked the wiki style, but noticed that most newbie users prefer blog style. http://www.emacswiki.org/pics/dead.png |
| * {{{\\}}} -- supported. http://www.emacswiki.org/pics/smile.png |
| * {{{=h1}}} -- supported, although I believe it to be wrong. http://www.emacswiki.org/pics/wry.png |
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| My position statement on [Creole 0.3]: |
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| * I'm happy with the simple tables. The Oddmuse implementation has right and center alignment with appropriate whitespace placement, and column spanning with empty cells. http://www.emacswiki.org/pics/smile.png |
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| My position statement on [Creole 0.2]: |
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| * {{{ {{image|text}} }}} -- supported. http://www.emacswiki.org/pics/smile.png |
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| My position statement on [Creole 0.1]: |
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| * {{{**bold**}}} and {{{//italics//}}} -- supported, including nesting and spanning lines but not paragraphs. http://www.emacswiki.org/pics/smile.png |
| * {{{* unordered lists}}} -- supported, but requiring a space after the {{{*}}} should part of the recommendation so that people can start paragraphs with bold words. That would be much better than the special case introduced. [http://www.wikicreole.org/wiki/Creole0.2#section-Creole0.2-Lists] http://www.emacswiki.org/pics/evil.png (CS: We agreed at the workshop not to require spaces, because many users do not put a space after a bullet.) |
| * {{{# ordered lists}}} -- supported, but requiring a space after the {{{#}}} should part of the recommendation for consistency with the unordered list markup. http://www.emacswiki.org/pics/indifferent.png |
| * Nested lists are usually not needed except for table of contents and other sort of dynamically assembled hierarchical data; repeating the list item character is not intuitive, using whitespace intuitive. Mixed nested lists add to the difficulties. http://www.emacswiki.org/pics/sad.png (CS: Kept nested lists (sublevels of lists) in 0.1, but removed mixed lists (i.e. mixing ordered and unordered lists in one structure) from Creole 0.1. Will continue discussion for Creole 0.2.) |
| * List items can span lines but not paragraphs. Empty lines between list items is are allowed. http://www.emacswiki.org/pics/smile.png |
| * {{{== headings}}} -- supported, but the recommendation should only require three different different heading levels. More levels should be optional. http://www.emacswiki.org/pics/indifferent.png (CS:Good idea! Added your recommendation to Creole 0.1.) |
| * {{{[[links]]}}} -- supported. http://www.emacswiki.org/pics/smile.png |
| * {{{ {{image}} }}} -- supported. http://www.emacswiki.org/pics/smile.png |
| * Paragraphs, linebreaks -- supported. http://www.emacswiki.org/pics/smile.png |
| * {{{~{{{Preformatted & unprocessed~}}}}}} -- supported as follows: If the opening triple braces start on the first column, open a pre block. It is closed by closing triple braces starting on the first column. Any other opening triple braces open a code element. They are closed by tripple braces. http://www.emacswiki.org/pics/smile.png |
| * {{{----}}} -- supported. http://www.emacswiki.org/pics/smile.png |
| * {{{<<x>>}}} -- irrelevant. http://www.emacswiki.org/pics/dead.png |
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| Thanks for all your hard work! --[Chuck Smith] (CS) |
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| Some comments by [Martin Budden]: |
| # I agree with Alex's point that a space after the {{{*}}} for unordered lists should be part of the recomendation. A simple rule makes things easier for users, even if it means they initially have to remember to put a space after the {{{*}}}. I've noticed that most users tend to do this anyway. |
| # Likewise for ordered lists. |
| -- [Martin Budden] 2006-12-06 |
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