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My position statement on Creole 0.1: (CS: my comments after your position statements --[Chuck Smith]) |
My position statement on [Creole 0.6]: |
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* I support both * and - as bullet list markup, but I require a space after the - and the there's no nesting (-- or ---) for -. |
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My position statement on [Creole 0.5]: |
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* {{{||=}}} -- supported |
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* Markup within table cells -- supported |
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* Images within links are supported (but not anything else) |
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* Using a space before }}} -- supported, but this is not the kind of escape character I would have expected. Adding an escape character would be nice. |
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My position statement on [Creole 0.4]: |
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* I had no strong opinion on ChangeLinebreakMarkupProposal. Personally, I liked the wiki style, but noticed that most newbie users prefer blog style. http://www.emacswiki.org/pics/dead.png |
* {{{\\}}} -- supported. http://www.emacswiki.org/pics/smile.png |
* {{{=h1}}} -- supported, although I believe it to be wrong. http://www.emacswiki.org/pics/wry.png |
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My position statement on [Creole 0.3]: |
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* I'm happy with the simple tables. The Oddmuse implementation has right and center alignment with appropriate whitespace placement, and column spanning with empty cells. http://www.emacswiki.org/pics/smile.png |
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My position statement on [Creole 0.2]: |
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* {{{ {{image|text}} }}} -- supported. http://www.emacswiki.org/pics/smile.png |
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My position statement on [Creole 0.1]: |
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* {{{- unordered lists}}} -- supported, but requiring a space after the {{{-}}} should part of the recommendation to reduce collisions with signatures, en-dashes, and negative numbers. http://www.emacswiki.org/pics/evil.png (CS: Removed from Creole 0.1 due to collision problems and precendence of current wiki practice.) |
* {{{* unordered lists}}} -- supported, but requiring a space after the {{{*}}} should part of the recommendation to reduce collisions with bold, since nested list items will start with {{{**}}}. http://www.emacswiki.org/pics/evil.png (CS: We agreed at the workshop not to require spaces, because many users do not put a space after a bullet.) |
* {{{* unordered lists}}} -- supported, but requiring a space after the {{{*}}} should part of the recommendation so that people can start paragraphs with bold words. That would be much better than the special case introduced. [http://www.wikicreole.org/wiki/Creole0.2#section-Creole0.2-Lists] http://www.emacswiki.org/pics/evil.png (CS: We agreed at the workshop not to require spaces, because many users do not put a space after a bullet.) |
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* Nested lists are usually not needed except for table of contents and other sort of dynamically assembled hierarchical data; repeating the list item character is not intuitive, using whitespace intuitive. Mixed nested lists add to the difficulties. Maybe both should be supported, if nested lists are to be supported at all, but this requires more discussion: This should not go into Creole 0.1. http://www.emacswiki.org/pics/sad.png (CS: Kept nested lists (sublevels of lists) in 0.1, but removed mixed lists (i.e. mixing ordered and unordered lists in one structure) from Creole 0.1. Will continue discussion for Creole 0.2.) |
* Nested lists are usually not needed except for table of contents and other sort of dynamically assembled hierarchical data; repeating the list item character is not intuitive, using whitespace intuitive. Mixed nested lists add to the difficulties. http://www.emacswiki.org/pics/sad.png (CS: Kept nested lists (sublevels of lists) in 0.1, but removed mixed lists (i.e. mixing ordered and unordered lists in one structure) from Creole 0.1. Will continue discussion for Creole 0.2.) |
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* {{{ {{image}} }}} -- supported, but the recommendation should offer a way to add alternative text. http://www.emacswiki.org/pics/indifferent.png (CS: Up for discussion in Creole 0.2.) |
* Paragraphs, linebreaks -- supported http://www.emacswiki.org/pics/smile.png |
* {{{ {{image}} }}} -- supported. http://www.emacswiki.org/pics/smile.png |
* Paragraphs, linebreaks -- supported. http://www.emacswiki.org/pics/smile.png |
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* {{{----}}} -- horizontal rule is supported. http://www.emacswiki.org/pics/smile.png |
* {{{<<x>>}}} -- not supported. http://www.emacswiki.org/pics/dead.png (CS: Should not be used in mixed creole implementations such as yours, so you match the spec on this point by not using it. This is only here for wiki engines whose syntax collides with Creole and need a separate edit button for Creole.) |
* {{{----}}} -- supported. http://www.emacswiki.org/pics/smile.png |
* {{{<<x>>}}} -- irrelevant. http://www.emacswiki.org/pics/dead.png |
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Some comments by [Martin Budden]: |
# I agree with Alex's point that a space after the {{{*}}} for unordered lists should be part of the recomendation. A simple rule makes things easier for users, even if it means they initially have to remember to put a space after the {{{*}}}. I've noticed that most users tend to do this anyway. |
# Likewise for ordered lists. |
-- [Martin Budden] 2006-12-06 |
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