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This wiki is now getting quite a bit of spam. There's enough spam to make the [Recent Changes] page useless. I repeat my plea - can we require people to login to make posts? (Note that I am not saying that we should not allow anyone to post as RadomirDopieralski seemed to have assumed in his reply to my original request, only that people have to login to post. Anyone can register for a login.)
I was just approached on IRC by a translator, who pointed out that the translation process is completely insane and discouraging. Not only you have to download and edit
some tag-soup pseudo-html file created with Word, not only you have to repeat each entry twice, but once you're done there is absolutely no way to figure out how to upload your translation -- just repeating the markup from other uploaded translations doesn't work.
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-- [MartinBudden], 2006-Dec-17
Honestly, if we want anybody to translate, we need to lower the barriers a little. The translator suggested a wiki plugin that would use standard gettext's .po files, but for now I just created a [[CheatSheetTranslation]] page, and re-made the English HTML file, to make it real html and hopefully a little more readable. I also made capitalization a little more consistent and fixed some spelling. [[english_cheat_sheet.html]]
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I would second this! Sure it's easy enough to revert a page, but what happens when someone new comes across it in between? Another good reason to require people to login to make posts is to avoid null entries in the [Recent Changes] page etc. I made an accidental null entry earlier today (Talk.Creole 0.3 02:00:06 null) when I made a change and hadn't realized I wasn't logged in.
-- Someone
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-- [MarkWharton], 2006-12-17
Please provide a link/button/whatever to turn off magic Google [SearchTermHighlighting]. If I'm googling 'wiki creole' and arrive at the Wiki Creole [Home] page, I really don't need half the page to be yellow.
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Ok, so what would happen if someone comes here and sees a vandalized page? If e knows about wikis (and chances are e does, as this wiki is dedicated to some pretty specialized topics), e just reverts the spam (provided e doesn't have to create an account and log in for that) and in the end feels good for doing something nice. If e doesn't understand the basic concepts of wikis -- well, e moves on, possibly to one of the pages linked from this site that have good explanation what a wiki is.
-- [MatijsVanZuijlen], 2008-06-24
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Locking this wiki behind a wall of account creation is going to decrease its credibilty in the wiki world, at least in my eyes.
Attention webmaster!!!
http://wikicreole.org (no "www") shows some crap.
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"Null" posts are technical problem of the wiki engine and should be fixed apropriately.
-- [[RadomirDopieralski]], 2006-12-17
-- Victor Grishchenko, 2008-07-20
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I agree. With the new spam filter i hope that we will not need to force users to log in in the future. Janne, where do those "Null" posts come from. Honestly i have no idea...
Thanks for the hint, we virtualized our servers and forgot the mapping without www...
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-- [Christoph], 2006-12-19
The "null" posts are a known and notoriously hard-to-track bug.
-- JanneJalkanen
EY! You have a real problem with spam protection her! Can not edit some pages because this wiki thinks some other comments are spam. WTF? -- [J├ÂrgGottschling]
I'm trying to post a cheat sheet I prepared (I posted it temporarily on my wiki instead now), and every time I get a message:
{{{
Akismet tells Herb you're a spammer, Herb trusts Akismet, and I trust Herb! (Incident code DXYZNV)
}}}
Personally, I prefer to revert some spam here and there than to not be able to post anything at all.
-- RadomirDopieralski, 2006-12-31
There is at least one automated spam bot for JSPWiki. jspwiki.org is getting hundreds of automated edits per day. Unfortunately it has ceased to be about "some spam here and there" :-(
Akismet is the Wordpress anti-spam system... I have no idea why it is not working as it should. But it can be turned off, if needed.
We calculate a delta of the change and submit that to Akismet. If you're being stopped because of some other people editing something on the pages, then that is a bug and please report it!
-- JanneJalkanen
I've turned off Akismet temporarily. There's also a missconfiguration so that you currently cannot get a new account. I am working on this tomorrow. Please be patient.
--[Christoph] 31. Dec. 2006
Meatball was using Akismet for awhile and decided to drop it. Not entirely sure on all the reasons, but one was it wasn't an open process. Its been replaced with a [Meatball:EditHash] and a simple CAPTCHA if there are URLs in the post. So far only had a handful of spam posts have gotten through in several weeks.
-- JaredWilliams
Well, I tried to post the CheatSheet, finally managed to do it. It only contains 2 urls, both to __this__ wiki -- no idea why Akismet thinks this is a spammy domain. Btw, any idea on how to quote the CheatSheet so that it can be easily copied to WikiCreole wikis?
Thank you for making it work and thanks a lot for all the work with caring about and hosting this wiki. Don't let the minor technical problems discourage you.
-- RadomirDopieralski, 2007-01-01
-- [[ChristophSauer]], 2008-Jul-24 12:44 (CEST)
Version Date Modified Size Author Changes ... Change note
29 24-Jul-2008 12:44 2.899 kB ChristophSauer to previous server move complete
28 19-Jul-2008 22:26 2.759 kB 194.226.235.165 to previous | to last
27 24-Jun-2008 02:24 2.645 kB MatijsVanZuijlen to previous | to last Complain
26 29-Oct-2007 16:03 2.381 kB RadomirDopieralski to previous | to last improve translations?
25 02-Jan-2007 09:02 1.512 kB Christoph to previous | to last Moved Discussion to SpamFilter
24 01-Jan-2007 07:29 6.136 kB null to previous | to last gotta hate spam
23 01-Jan-2007 01:37 5.509 kB RadomirDopieralski to previous | to last works now, thanks
22 31-Dec-2006 18:37 5.043 kB 62.252.32.15 to previous | to last Spam prevention
21 31-Dec-2006 18:36 4.699 kB Christoph to previous | to last turned off akismet
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