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Radomir challenges: ''now go ask a random teenager''.
I am not sure what point exactly you're trying to make here. Are you suggesting that a random teenager has more than a snowball's chance in hell of typing correct semantic markup into the Web? That there are any plausible scenarios where people ignorant of the typographic traditions will somehow get the semantic markup right?
I agree with your sum-up. I am certainly not arguing that Wiki markup should be considered to be purely presentational. I am absolutely in favor of the ideal of empowering users to make their markup more semantically meaningful. I just do not believe that Wikis are the best place to make that happen, and that attempts to push it are likely to backfire.
After some thought, I now feel that the exact XHTML rendering for, say, slashes and stars should be left to the implementor. <i> and <b> are perfectly reasonable, as are <em> and <strong> (which as [Jukka points out|http://www.cs.tut.fi/%7Ejkorpela/html/em.html] are in practice little more than aliases for the old-school HTML tags).
-- [Raph Levien] 2006-01-07
Version Date Modified Size Author Changes ... Change note
8 16-Mar-2007 16:10 14.269 kB 83.18.142.106 to previous added link to a w3c article
7 10-Jan-2007 01:32 14.143 kB RadomirDopieralski to previous | to last not semantic/presentational, just useful
6 09-Jan-2007 23:15 10.03 kB RaphLevien to previous | to last indented markup and Crossmark
5 08-Jan-2007 15:54 7.913 kB RadomirDopieralski to previous | to last "presentational markup is easier" argument is simply wrong
4 08-Jan-2007 07:34 7.04 kB Christoph to previous | to last XHTML rendering should be left to the implementor
3 08-Jan-2007 05:34 6.861 kB RaphLevien to previous | to last response to Radomir
2 02-Jan-2007 02:16 5.746 kB RadomirDopieralski to previous | to last rantitty rant
1 02-Jan-2007 02:15 5.746 kB RadomirDopieralski to last even more ranting
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