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Some more thoughts#

The great thing about Wikipedia references and one which I will try to reproduce whether or not creole makes it part of the spec is the ability to automatically list all the references at the end of the page.

Logically a reference placer ought to be something in the form:-

[Bugs and how to find them, Isonomia 2008|#]

Which on the face of it says: the text "bugs and ...." should be replaced by an empty internal reference or alternatively it could be thought to say "bugs and ...." should be replaced by a number (#). As this is what a reference is, I would suggest something like this.

There are then two additional problems:

  1. How to refer to the same reference a second time
  2. How to put a place holder for the list.

Now I suppose, if internal references are tied to headings as I suggested on the Intra Page Links then "=" is an unlikely symbol in the link (especially as it can't be used in the hyperlink).

So how about a naming convention:-

This is a some text about bugs[Bugs and how to find them, Isonomia 2008|#=Bugs]
...
This is more text with the same reference [#=Bugs] ...
and this is yet another reference where I want to have the same reference[#=Bugs]

Which just leaves the question of how to trigger the creation of the reference table. Here are some suggestions:

1. [#] 
2. [##]
The first probably is ambiguous because if [#ref] means a link to http://www.example.com/thispage.htm#ref then [#] really means: "make a hyperlink to http://www.example.com/thispage.htm# i.e. the top of the page.

The second means "make a hyperlink to #" or "make a link to number" which if that were to produce a list of references with back links to the numbers/references would be quite logical:-

[^] Bugs and how to find them, Isonomia 2008
[^] Bugs and how to find them, Isonomia 20008


OK, I've now realised that
[Bugs and how to find them, Isonomia 2008|#]
Is illogical because '#' implies a reference to this page. But I now see it would be logical to have:-
[Bugs and how to find them, Isonomia 2008|##]
or alternatively:-
[#Bugs and how to find them, Isonomia 2008]
And another as such there is no need for ##= so additional references should be done using the syntax:-
First reference[Bugs and how to find them, Isonomia 2008|##Bugs]
Second reference[##Bugs]
More reference to same reference [##Bugs]
==Refences==
[##]

Footnotes#

Whilst I'm not a great fan of footnotes, it seems that references and footnotes need a similar notation. So given the list # & * I would propose a parallel footnote system:-

Some text [This is a footnote|#*] or [This is a footnote|**] or some more text with alternative style [*This is another footnote]

<End of normal text>

==Footnotes==
[**]
==References==
[##]

After all this I quite like the [*footnote] and [#reference] style but there is nowhere to put the label, and [#text] is already used for internal references, so how about [**footnote] and if it requries a label use the syntax:-

[**Footnote=<Label>]
which logically shrinks if the following references do not include the reference/footnote to the form:-
[**=<label>]
or [##=<label>]

Yep. I think I have the proposal:

  1. References in the form: [##<reference>]
  2. References with label: [##<reference>=<label>] # References to same labelled reference {{{[##=<label>]}}} # Force creation of list of above reference {{{[##]}}} # Footnotes in the form: {{{[**<footnote>]}}} # Footnotes with labels as per references. # Force creation of list of footnotes {{{[**]}}} [Isonomia] -- 2008, Apr 28

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