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After editing the title page and trying to start a link to {{{ }}} and finding it disappearing I wondered whether creole was intended to replace or overlay html coding. At least from this wiki (if it is creole 1.0 compliant?) it appears that at least some html coding like {{{ }}} is included within the wiki and creole is an addition rather than replacement.
After editing the title page and trying to start a link to {{{ }}} and finding it disappearing I wondered whether creole was intended to replace or overlay html coding. At least from this wiki (if it is creole 1.0 compliant?) it appears that at least some html coding like {{{ }}} is included within the wiki and creole is an addition rather than replacement.
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How should: {{{This is%20a test}}} be displayed?
How should: {{{This is%20a test}}} be displayed?
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Yves, the specification isn't very helpful when it comes to deciding what needs to be filtered and what does not. E.g. when text is included as a hyperlink, but isn't a full URL, should it be escaped or should it be urlencoded?
-- [[Isonomia]]
I'm implementing the Creole spec for Ruby and came across the same issue.
It makes sense to me that by default, HTML is escaped; however, strictly no HTML is not pragmatic. I'd like an "allow HTML" block. Using triple braces denotes a "nowiki" block and perhaps we could use something similar (as it feels like a similar idea) like triple brackets "(((" to denote an "html" block.
{{{
(((
<b>bold</b> works here
)))
but <b>bold</b> does not work here but (((<b>works here</b>)))
}}}
Note that it can work "block" or "inline". I can't think of any situation where an accidental triple bracketing would occur. The only situations where this might happen at all is in code, but my guess is this would be triple braced ~{{{}}} for code anyways.
-- [[SunnyHirai]], 2008-Jun-11
One way to incorporate HTML into an implementation could be through a macro:
{{{
<<html>>
<b>bold</b> works here
<</html>>
but <b>bold</b> does not work here but <<html>><b>works here</b><</html>>
}}}
This is the direction I've been going with [[http://creoleparser.googlepages.com|Creoparser.py]]. I've made a little tutorial about its macro support [[http://creoleparserwiki.appspot.com/pages/HTMLMacroExample|here]].
-- [[StephenDay]], 2008-Jun-11
A similar way -- maybe more consistent with creole -- would be to simply double html's delimiters : {{<...> --> <<...>>}}
{{{
Thus <b>this is regular text</b> while <<b>>this is bold text<</b>>.
}}}
This double marking means "I intentionaly insert html code".
The parser should then :
* Escape undoubled html markup.
* Then "simplify" {{{<< to < and >> to >}}}.
Which seems rather clear.
But: there is a imho //major// disadvantage in letting html codable in creole source text : which is that this code is not known by the average user/editor, not even specified by creole's standard, and above all not designed to be easily readable (legible?).
As a consequence, it will highly confuse the people to whom precisely creole (and most wiki language) are targeted. Is that not a basic contradiction ?
Also thinks at all the pretentious html-coders that may -- and will -- use html for the sake of their ego. Either adding features others can't code, or even using html rather than creole tags.
So the Q : is it worth letting html in?
[[spir]] 15-aug-08
spir,
If double angle brackets are used for extensions, then the implementation would be free to use them in any way, including as you suggest for html. But if this html idiom became part of creole, than I think (real) extensions would need to use something other than double angle brackets. :-)
-- [[StephenDay]], 2008-Sept-15
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