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== Whitespace, dash, plus ==
== Whitespace, single dash, single plus ==
Gripes with current proposals:
* Current standard: having to escape the (quite common) "bold at the beginning of a line" is bad.
** So: Should my proposal prove inadequate (or unpopular ;-) I'm very much in favor of this proposal. Still: Strange escaping rules should be avoided at all costs.
* Repeating the bullet character (vs. whitespace): I am not sure that we are not making common things (at most 2 indentation levels in lists) harder while making uncommon things (more than 2 nesting levels) easier.
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I'm in favor of the following syntax (hear me out, I'll consider anti-whitespace arguments)
{{{
- one (ul)
- one.one
- one.two
- two (ul)
+ two.one (ol)
}}}
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Advantages:
* Near WYSIWYG: Conforms to common plain text practices, looks a lot like the rendered output.
* Uniformity: ordered and unordered lists have similar "bullets".
* Compared to multiple dashes / no whitespace:
** No clash with hr
** No clash with signatures
* Compared to the current standard:
** No clash with bold at the beginning of a line (which is not uncommon).
* Works quite well in Python and Haskell. This point is only partly humorous, as wiki markup is a semi-formal language and does have some rigid rules, so the same kind of usability rules apply here as they do to programming languages.
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Potential disadvantages:
* User has to count spaces: I would count ''relative'' indentation (not the absolute amount of spaces), then this is only a problem if one wants to continue a second-level list (see below). But: users look for visual feedback after entering wiki text, anyway, and will be very obviously alerted to the problem then.
{{{
- first level
- second level (counting is not a problem: we just have MORE spaces than the line above)
- third level 1
- third level 2 (counting is not a problem: it is the same as the line above)
- second level continued (here we have to count...)
}}}
* Confusing tabs and spaces: disallow tabs.
* Clash with negative numbers: make space after hyphen mandatory. This is how humans disambiguate here, too:
{{{
-333
- An item (the above does not look like an item)
}}}
Version Date Modified Size Author Changes ... Change note
17 26-Sep-2007 12:33 19.356 kB ChuckSmith to previous restore
16 26-Sep-2007 02:24 19.394 kB 203.69.39.251 to previous | to last
15 07-Mar-2007 10:15 19.356 kB RadomirDopieralski to previous | to last added reference to BulletListOnWikipediaResearch
14 06-Mar-2007 14:48 19.219 kB RadomirDopieralski to previous | to last better descriptions for hyphen and asterisk
13 06-Mar-2007 13:26 18.702 kB RadomirDopieralski to previous | to last revert to bring back uncertanity
12 06-Mar-2007 10:33 18.754 kB ChuckSmith to previous | to last asterisk conflict
11 04-Mar-2007 10:51 18.702 kB RadomirDopieralski to previous | to last formatting
10 04-Mar-2007 10:18 18.757 kB RadomirDopieralski to previous | to last formatting
9 04-Mar-2007 10:10 18.695 kB RadomirDopieralski to previous | to last typos
8 04-Mar-2007 10:06 18.685 kB RadomirDopieralski to previous | to last reformatted the features
7 04-Mar-2007 09:46 18.178 kB RadomirDopieralski to previous | to last features of list markups
6 04-Mar-2007 00:55 18.017 kB RadomirDopieralski to previous | to last features of list markups
5 02-Mar-2007 13:11 9.66 kB RadomirDopieralski to previous | to last two more
4 28-Feb-2007 19:26 4.533 kB RadomirDopieralski to previous | to last added current markup
3 28-Feb-2007 18:26 2.415 kB AxelRauschmayer to previous | to last
2 28-Feb-2007 18:11 2.357 kB AxelRauschmayer to previous | to last
1 28-Feb-2007 18:02 0.194 kB AxelRauschmayer to last
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