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Gregor, your arguments are valid concerns. However I tried to show here that they are not unique to hyphens. I've tried to summarize the results of our argument in the [[HyphenListMarkupProposal#Remaining Problems Identified in Discussions]]. Thanks, Gregor, Radomir, Yves. Some might think that all this here is a waste of time, I don't think so - It helps us getting creole rock solid.
-- [[ChristophSauer]], 2007-Apr-17
Another way to avoid misinterpreting characters such as stars and sharps at the beginning
of a line would be to require a blank line between each block element (not between list items).
Might be new, so I just mention it, I don't support it yet.
-- [[YvesPiguet]], 2007-Apr-17
That still leaves you with no way to put bold text at a beginning of a paragraph (which is a pretty common case).
Actually, shouldn't the "bold at the beginning of a paragraph" use case be better (semantically) handled by a level 6 heading styled so that it flows together with the paragraph text? Just wondering... :)
-- [[Radomir Dopieralski]], 2007-Apr-19
A list should beginning at level 1, with a single star or sharp. You could have a paragraph
starting with {{{##atan2## is a function which should be known by all electrical engineers}}}
which headings wouldn't solve.
I understand this is a restriction, but probably more benign than other limitations on mixing
(or not) lists and preformatted blocks or tables. (Sad remark: of course, double-sharp markup
is likely to be rejected by the current poll, so maybe it isn't the right place or time or I'm not
the right person to think about that).
-- [[YvesPiguet]], 2007-Apr-19
Polls are to "get the feel of what people think", not for accepting or rejecting proposals. We don't vote here.
I already restart lists on empty lines -- I didn't even thought about doing it any other way, so I probably didn't understand you well.
Yes, always starting lists with a single star/sharp solves most of the use cases, and basically only leaves the pretty rare problem of weird line breaking, which can be worked around by breaking the line differently anyways -- no sense introducing special escape characters for that.
-- [[Radomir Dopieralski]], 2007-Apr-20
I meant that:
{{{
This is a paragraph
* with a line which begins with a star, another one with a hyphen (here it is:
-1), and a last one with
=.
* And here is the beginning of a list
= Title
}}}
And the same for tables, preformatted blocks (to be distinguished from inline nowiki), etc.
-- [[YvesPiguet]], 2007-Apr-20
Neat.
Inly it's even more artificial than a space after bullet, isn't it? I'm preparing styles for many wikis, and one of frequent requirements is that there is no empty space between a paragraph and following list. They say: if I want an empty line there, I will make it with a BR, but most of the time I don't want it. I even argued for the first two or three times this came up, but then given up -- it's their wiki, after all.
Just one particular use case, not to dismiss this entirely, of course. Still spaces seem saner to me and not as arbitrary.
-- [[Radomir Dopieralski]], 2007-Apr-21
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