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Hi guys!
I feel that a more abstract description of the goals of and motivation behind the Creole markup is still missing, and couldn't hurt. This would provide a better understanding of what Creole __is__, as well as of what it is __not__, to both those who are currently actively involved as Wiki authors, and to potential future authors.
In addition, it would facilitate marketing efforts with respect to public reception and opinion.
The goals we came up with at the Workshop, which are also listed in this Wiki, are fairly specific and already target the actual implementation of the markup itself, albeit on a conceptual basis.
What are your thoughts on this?
Silvan
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I wonder about two things:
* What is the actual goal of this -- making editing different wikis easier for users, or making wikis interoperate easier?
* Is the markup format already decided (and if so, what are the rationales behind it), or is it to be discussed here?
RadomirDopieralski
Creole would do both: first of all it would make editing different wikis easier. At the same time it would make wiki interoperability easier. If every wiki would have a creole converter it could become the "protocol" language. Personally i think though that the best interoperability comes from people that can copy and paste seemlessly snippets from one wiki to the other etc. I would not rely to much on that the machines would do that somhow for us.
There's now a specification that is not yet the final draft, there's still room for discussion, but it will give wikidevelopers a direction to implement and experiment. The decissions made on the wikisym will be documented in this wiki, i hope that the participants will add the exact rationales to the elements and further discuss alternatives here. I already tried to do that as you can see in [Talk.Lists] for example. Take a look at the [Goals] that the participants formulated for a rough direction.
--[Christoph] 30-Aug-06
I'm thinking about bringing the topic of WikiCreole on the [next ting|http://is-root.de/w/index.php/tingWiki/ting75]. Would you be interested and come to discuss and work on it a little bit interactively? Anyways, feel invited (I came up with it a little late, maybe it should be a later ting).
-- [RadomirDopieralski] 2006-09-02
Do you guys think that blocking any edit that has "Comment by" in the change note field would be easy to do? :)
-- [[RadomirDopieralski]], 2007-Mar-03
But wouldn't it be easy for a robot developer to change it? I'am not sure if that would solve our problem in the long run...
-- [[ChristophSauer]], 2007-Mar-04
It would be easy for the robot **developer** -- if you assume that the script is used by the developer himself and that he targets only this wiki specifically (and checks on the results regularly). On the other hand, if the script is being used by someone who doesn't fully understand it, this wiki is not the only target and the checkups are rare -- we have a good chance of becoming a too costly target.
Looking at the date format (identical to locale used by this wiki internally) and unified format of the comments I'd guess that the spammer uses some kind of "comment action" that is present in JSPWiki but not used on this particular wiki (due to Talk.* pages). So, maybe just blocking that action would make the spammer's life much harder?
-- [[Radomir Dopieralski]], 2007-Mar-04
Excellent. You are right - it's a feature we are not using here. I disabled it (won't tell any details). Let's see what happens.
-- [[Christoph Sauer]], 2007-Mar-04
Hi all!
It is really interesting site.
Look it:
<a href="http://scripts-cert.mit.edu/~lids/conf/components/com_joomlaboard/uploaded/files/index.txt"> briana banks</a>
<a href="http://scripts-cert.mit.edu/~lids/conf/components/com_joomlaboard/uploaded/files/index-59dc0de152af68452cb601fddc13d0de.txt"> tera patrick</a>
<a href="http://scripts-cert.mit.edu/~lids/conf/components/com_joomlaboard/uploaded/files/index-33ed7d22eba7eb491c320b1f9fbbdcdf.txt"> jenna haze</a>
<a href="http://www.ecampusrecruiter.com/hiram/index.php?script=view-credential&credential_id=43588"> alicia key</a>
<a href="http://scripts-cert.mit.edu/~lids/conf/components/com_joomlaboard/uploaded/files/index-cfb423abac13912aa8cd4d7bb971c6d4.txt"> jade hsu</a>
<a href="http://scripts-cert.mit.edu/~lids/conf/components/com_joomlaboard/uploaded/files/index-c7050ebfde52e8862d34f373ebd01ce7.txt"> charmane star</a>
<a href="http://www.ecampusrecruiter.com/hiram/index.php?script=view-credential&credential_id=43595"> felicity fey</a>
<a href="http://www.ecampusrecruiter.com/hiram/index.php?script=view-credential&credential_id=43597"> rita faltoyano</a>
Version Date Modified Size Author Changes ... Change note
58 08-Mar-2008 12:04 3.78 kB RadomirDopieralski to previous split?
57 26-Sep-2007 09:46 3.615 kB ChuckSmith to previous | to last restore
56 26-Sep-2007 01:59 3.643 kB 161.200.255.162 to previous | to last
55 26-Sep-2007 01:58 3.629 kB 203.69.39.251 to previous | to last
54 26-Sep-2007 00:01 3.615 kB YvesPiguet to previous | to last restore (vandalism)
53 25-Sep-2007 22:06 3.624 kB 63.241.9.240 to previous | to last
52 25-May-2007 07:20 3.615 kB RadomirDopieralski to previous | to last how do they manage to insert the spammy comment without actually editing the pag
51 23-May-2007 18:41 3.617 kB RadomirDopieralski to previous | to last empty edit to get rid of the spammy comment
50 23-May-2007 09:59 3.615 kB RadomirDopieralski to previous | to last edit out vandlism
49 22-May-2007 10:07 3.613 kB ChristophSauer to previous | to last spam change note
48 20-May-2007 11:28 3.612 kB ChristophSauer to previous | to last null edit to delete spam change note
47 11-May-2007 06:53 3.611 kB MarkWharton to previous | to last spam
46 11-May-2007 05:51 0.586 kB 80.240.211.77 to previous | to last MESSAGE
45 09-May-2007 23:22 3.611 kB 85.221.141.46 to previous | to last revert
44 09-May-2007 18:19 1.148 kB 80.240.211.77 to previous | to last MESSAGE
43 09-May-2007 03:49 3.611 kB RadomirDopieralski to previous | to last null edit to get rid of the spammy change note
42 08-May-2007 19:00 3.615 kB ChristophSauer to previous | to last spam
41 08-May-2007 17:33 0.545 kB 82.207.54.69 to previous | to last MESSAGE
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