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2. I have quite a bit of reservation why we do not require a blank after the OL/UL hyphen or number sign. Not requiring a blank here seems artificial. Most whitespace rules in the wiki correspond with html/xml whitespace normalization (I consider this an argument for being "intuitive" to a lot of readers, not a technical argument). The difference between "- X" and "-X", or "# X" and "#X" seems to be intuitively significant. Requiring it in Creole would simplify Creole explanations, it would reduce the amount of escaping-analysis needed for the unordered lists. Am I overlooking a good argument, why we have to support both alternative markup styles?
2. I have quite a bit of reservation why we do not require a blank after the OL/UL hyphen or number sign (as proposed in Radomir's arguments at the start of [[Talk.HyphenListMarkupProposal]], and in [[RequireSpaceAfterBulletProposal]] - albeit focussing on asterisks). Sorry to bring this up again, but I took the pain to read through [[Talk.RequireSpaceAfterBulletProposal]], and 95% of te discussion has focussed on technical issues on parsers, programning, and ambiguity issues like bullets versus bold. The discussion I would like to see is about making it simple and intuitive and readability for users - which was a major argument in the original proposal. I personally find bullet-plus-blank much more intuitive and readable markup sequence. It would make the Creole specs simpler, not requiring us to explain two alternative ways of list markup!
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The one argument that is relevant here is that Chuck made a wikipedia study resulting in 50/50 chance of either markup. I wonder whether this decisive enough, or is due to wikipedia-experts. I challenge everybody to take a look yourself, using the random article function and going into edit mode - which style is more visible and readable? And look at your own emails - which style is being used there?
To me giving both options is two different rules, perhaps because unlike most whitespace rules in Creole and in fact all Wikis I know, this **does not**, correspond to html/xml whitespace normalization. (I consider this an argument for being "intuitive" to a lot of readers, not a technical argument). The difference between "- X" and "-X", or "# X" and "#X" seems to be intuitively significant. Do we really have to support both alternative markup styles?
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